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Sigrid  wrote:
> One of the objections to Eisenman is that (like Thiering), much of what he
> writes is off-topic for the Orion list.

The equalization is somewhat unfair.

[...]
> Most of the people portrayed in the NT, particularly in the Gospels, were
> in fact Jews, or Jewish followers of Jesus.

There's no difference at all.

>We have no accounts of the
> people of Antioch who called themselves Christians, only Luke, in the book
> of Acts, calling followers of Jesus "people of the Way."
>

The Pauline community in the former capital of Seleucid Syria was the centre
of Christian activities in the Lukan sense of the term.


> Many of the Jews portrayed in the NT had Greek rather than Hebrew names,
> however, which is the source of some confusion.

Simply because NT was (and still is) directed to a hellenized auditorium.

[...]
> The royal house of Adiabene, including the mother, Helen, and the son(s?)
> Izates and Monobasis, converted to Judaism, as recorded by Josephus and
> remembered in the Mishna. I am not aware of any documentation that they
> (then) became Christians. Are you? Is Eisenman?

The royal house of Adiabene, a Parthian satrapy between Mesopotamia and
Media Atropatene which became a front state in the 1st c. CE, converted, if
we may believe our sources, to Judaism. But surely not to hellenized,
pro-Roman Judaism favored by the High Priest of the enemy Roman Province of
Syria, for that would have caused a military action of the Parthian King of
Kings. Perhaps we better should speak of anti-Roman/"Jamesian" Judaism in
connection with the conversion of Helena, who's sons acted as
 "revolutionary" war-volunteers in the 1st Jewish war; i.e. a Parthian
military contingent behind the Roman frontline.

[...]
> Hindley:
> > or of the influence of the Herodian style
> > of religious observance on Paul's teachings. Yet these are thematic in
> > Eisenman's book _James_. We need more of that kind of thing, in my
> > opinion.
>
> Peterson:
> I do not have my copy of Eisenman's JAMES with me; does he indeed say
> those things you've attributed to him?

... not in the literal, but in the political figurative sense.

Best regards,
Dierk
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