Fred Cryer, Stephen Goranson and others, Let's drop the "silliness." Fred has explained what he meant by "silly rumours" and we can all let the topic rest. It's time to continue the other threads on a more mature level of discourse. If any of you feels the need to vent, do so by private e-mail but keep it off the list. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. Avital Pinnick list moderator Orion