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Re: orion not either/or
Gentle Jim--
In re:
> > Whether we approve or not, evidence shows Essenes lived at Qumran
>
> What evidence? What material find has been recovered that proves that
> Essenes lived in the buildings of Khirbet Qumran? Are there documents from
> the buildings? Did someone scrawl "Essenes were here" on one of the walls?
> Are there cups, saucers, platters, or utensils stamped with the "essene mark"?
I quite agree with you here. Although we seem to have uncovered bags
full of evidence, what interpretation one might make of those bags full
is quite another problem. However...
--[snip]--
> >Second Temple Judaism as a whole nor a small, isolated sect. Essene legal
> >views, largely, were rejected or ignored by Rabbinic Judaism, though there
> >was probably more Essene influence on Jewish mystical traditions which
> >persisted. In Christianity, some of the more "Jewish-Christian" books, like
> >Revelation of John and Epistle of James (books, not so incidently,
> >disliked by Luther [an ex-monk]) were probably influenced by Essene ideas;
>
> !!!!! What evidence is there of this? Parallelomania?
>
> >but, though canonical, were reinterpreted over time.
>
Having not studied James sufficiently to even be dangerous [as in "a
little knowledge"] I truly cannot speak to that. But I suspect that one
can indeed make a fairly strong case for a very wide variety of
re-interpretation by Christian "tradition" for the Revelation of John.
The last time I taught a seminar in the Apocalypse, we were fortunate
enough to have two published Christian authors on that topic--along with
a couple of MA candidates whose interest in the course was their work in
Jewish apocalyptic. Trust me, the discussions spanned a wide spectrum
of interpretation and re-interpretation! Dr Goranson is quite correct
here.
> Huh?
>
> >Stephen Goranson goranson@duke.edu
>
> Jim
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++
> Jim West, ThD
> Adjunct Professor of Bible
> Quartz Hill School of Theology
>
> jwest@highland.net
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---Bob
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