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Re: orion Hasidim, Sadducees, Essenes & Qumran
At 17:25 02/08/97 -0400, RGmyrken@aol.com wrote:
> (1) I recently argued at the Jerusalem Congress that several major texts
>including 1QM, CD, 1QS, 1QSa were originally composed during the
>Hasidim/Maccabean revolt. This Hasidim literature was probably used in later
>times by both Sadducees and Essenes who claimed the Hasidim as spiritual
>ancestors.
I would find it helpful to use a more precise definition than the ambiguous
"Sadducees," and to define Essenes more precisely, as I can't determine if
they are used consistently later in your presentation. By Sadducees, to
which sect described in MMT do you refer, the Qumran / Khasidim Tzedoqim or
the Pseudo-Tzedoqim in the Beyt Ha-Miqdash in Yerushalaim? Can you define
your use of Essenes in terms of Tzedoqim, Perushim and/or other orientation?
> (3) The Hymn to King Jonathan and other Sadducean texts at Qumram
>indicate the fortified estate was occupied by Sadducean aristocratic
>partisans of King Jonathan (Jannaeus) from 76-63 BCE, as per Jos., Ant.
>13.410-417.
Here, if I understand correctly, you refer to the Qumran Tzedoqim and NOT to
the Pseudo-Tzedoqim?
> (4) But under Herod, royal and private estates were seized from his
>opponents (e.g. Sadducees)
Which are these?
and awarded to his friends (e.g. Essenes).
And which are these?
Thanks,
Yirmiyahu Ben-David
Paqid 16, Qehilat Ha-Netzarim (Nazarene Jews)
www.netzarim.co.il
Ra'anana, Israel