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Re: Port or Dock.
Thanks, Avigdor. For some reason your point came through more clearly this
time. I have long been interested in a passage from the Similitudes of Enoch
that pictures the punishment of the angels, connecting it to some
sort of spa or hot springs where the kings and mighty of the earth
present go to heal their bodies, but will eventually be for the
punishment of their spirits. The location is a "valley" and has a number
of vulcanic associations (earthquakes, convulsions of the waters, the
smell of sulphur, streams of fire), and the waters will change from cold
to hot as the angels are being punished. The passage is 1 Enoch
67:4-13. Some commentators have identified the location with
Callirrhoe and Herod's visit mentioned by Josephus, although I
believe Callirrhoe is not the only place along the Jordan rift
that one finds hot springs (Tiberius?). Recognizing that we may be
dealing with a mythic geography, what do you make of the reference?
David Suter
Saint Martin's College
On Tue, 2 Apr 1996, avigdor horovitz wrote:
> Dear David,
> I refer you to the passage from Ezekiel 47 which I cited at length in a
> communication yesterday. He mentions that even after the Salt Sea will
> be healed swamps will be maintained for their medicinal value. He may be
> casting into the future here a quality of the sea known and exploited in
> his own time.
> Victor Avigdor Hurowitz
> Dept. of Bible and ANE
> Ben Gurion University
> Beer Sheva, ISRAEL
>
> On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, David W. Suter wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 31 Mar 1996, David Jay Kaufman wrote:
> >
> > > Speaking of the water. Does anyone know if there is evidence that
> > > the Dead Sea was used as a kind of spa in ancient times? Are there
> > > stories of the water's medicinal properties?
> >
> > In Antiquities XVII.171-72 and Jewish War I.657, Josephus reports that
> > Herod the Great, at the end of his life, was taken to warm springs at
> > Callirrhoe on the shore of "Lake Asphaltophoros" across the Jordan for
> > medical treatment. However, the waters involved in the treatment
> > are said to descend into the lake and include among their virtues the fact
> > that they are sweet enough to drink, so they are obviously not from the
> > lake itself. The Loeb edition includes a note that the baths there are
> > mentioned in Pliny, Ptolemaeus, are shown on the Madaba Mosaic, and are
> > mentioned in Genesis Rabbah 37.6.
> >
> > David Suter
> > Saint Martin's College
> >
> > eading the battle against th=
> > e=20
> > government's policies regarding the peace process. In its literature, Zo=20
> > Artzeinu advocates passive civil disobedience following the example of th=
> > e=20
> > late Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.=20
> >
> > ****
> > On orders given by a senior IDF official in the Hevron area, the jeeps=20
> > patrolling the area were ordered to remove the Israeli flags from the=20
> > jeeps. The officer stated that it was agreed in the Oslo Accords.=20
> > (SNS/Hevron..2/5).
> >
> > ****
> >
> > Nine incidents of stone throwing attacks were reported during the morning=
> > =20
> > rush hour on the Beit Lechem (Bethlehem) bypass road. No injuries were=20
> > reported in the attacks. (SNS/Hevron..2/5).
> >
> > **** From schneidt@cgs.edu Tue Apr 2 07:36:44 1996
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> > Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 14:49:45 -0700 (PDT)
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> > From: schneidt@cgs.edu (Tammi)
> > Subject: Re: JEhu
> > To: avigdor horovitz <victor@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>
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> > Hi. Good question. I think that we have to remember that Jehu's
> > depiction is by Assyrians and so if they did not consider the
> > tassle important to putting across the image they were trying to
> > promote of this type of foreigner they would not include it, but it
> > does not mean that they did or did not wear them. There are not many
> > depictions of Israelites from antiquity, which is why the Black Obelisk
> > is so important. What is interesting, as Liz Carter pointed out, is
> > that there are fringes on some of the if I am not mistaken Assyrian figures.
> > They have this little tassle thing which I am not sure about the full
> > art historical discussion, but I will ask Linda and look through some books.
> > I had never thought about it in that way so I need to think. If I am
> > not mistaken, even some of the Canaanites depicted in Egyptian objects
> > from the second millennium have "CAnaanites" in their "multi colored" garments,
> > some of them with tassles, but I have to check them.
> >
> > I will get back to you.
> > When are you dating them?
> > Tammi
> >
> >
> > From owner-ane@mithra-orinst.uchicago.edu Tue Apr 2 07:41:08 1996
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> > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:20:22 -0600
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> > Subject: Re: Archaeology and the media
> > To: Doug Hawk <SB_DOUG@MASH.Colorado.EDU>, ane@mithra-orinst.uchicago.edu
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> > Doug Hawk wrote on March 29:
> >
> > Text deleted...
> >
> > > The recent discussions on this list concerning the media and
> > > its interpretation or misinterpretation of archaeological
> > > facts, beliefs, and theories is similar to the concerns
> > > expressed by scholars in all academic disciplines. Having
> > (snip)
> > > However, even with the need to sensationalize, reporters,
> > > in general, want to get it right. They're like anyone else,
> > > they don't want to discover after the fact that they've
> > > flubbed their assignment. (There are obvious exceptions,
> > (snip)
> > > It's a double-edged sword:
> > > media attention can translate into public interest, or
> > > public disdain.
> >
> >
> > A "double-edged sword": I could not describe it any better.
> > Having worked on a video production on the excavations at
> > Tell Hazor has given me a golden opportunity to see the
> > interaction between "accurate data" and "popular data".
> > It can be a rather difficult task to present archaeological
> > material in an entertaining way...unless you do some
> > sort of sensationalizing.
> > I saw TV crews (others than my
> > own) recording whatever was appealing and ignoring the real
> > "treasures". I saw them interviewing archaeologists and
> > area supervisors and obtain some unusual evidence, some
> > dramatic interpretation. After all, abandoning a site due
> > to a drought does not sound as attractive as having to leave
> > the site due to a disease or an ominous attack.
> > Yet, I believe that we can find some kind of compromise.
> > Programs such as those of TLC's are pointing in that general
> > direction. Maybe, some day, we will enjoy TV shows that are
> > both accurate and entertaining.
> > Rodrigo Silva-Manns
> >
> > From root@pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il Tue Apr 2 07:43:10 1996
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> > Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 11:22:21 -0600
> > From: PFlesher@uwyo.edu (Paul V. M. Flesher)
> > Subject: Water Levels and a port.
> > X-Sender: PFlesher@Plains.UWYO.edu
> > To: orion@pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il, ioudaios-l@lehigh.edu
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> >
> > With regard to the question of the water level in antiquity at Qumran and
> > the Yam haMelek. Ein Feshka is about two miles closer to the sea than the
> > Qumran site itself. De Vaux makes it clear in his _Archaeology and the
> > DSS_ that the site was used by the Qumran settlement during that time. So
> > if there was a port, it would have been closer to Ein Feshka than to
> > Qumran.
> >
> > So NO, the qumran Site was not used as a port or a dock.
> >
> > Again, the important key to evaluating many of these suggestions and
> > theories is the archaeological evidence. I do not have a copy of the first
> > volume of the exacavation report (just issued by J. Humbert) at hand so
> > that I can consult De Vaux's field notes, but my impression is that he did
> > not find material culture that would indicate trading. The first text that
> > could be interpreted as a "trade list" was found on a sherd in January by
> > Jim Strange and is currently being conserved and interpreted. Until we see
> > a professional report, we won't know anything further.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Paul V. M. Flesher
> > Religious Studies
> > University of Wyoming
> > Laramie, WY 82071-3353
> >
> >
> > From root@pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il Tue Apr 2 07:45:48 1996
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> > To: orion@pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il
> > From: MC2499@mclink.it (Ian Hutchesson)
> > Subject: Will someone switch the lights on?
> > Sender: owner-orion@pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il
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> >
> > Dear long suffering Orionites (Orionians?),
> >
> > I hereby announce that I will be away from the list for three weeks to the
> > land of Egypt where Onias set up another temple called the Onion!
> >
> > There is a type of imported cheese you can buy there called "La vache chi
> > ris" which has a smiling cow on the packet. This comes to mind when I think
> > that Hosni Mubarak has often been called "La vache chi ris" in misr. I hope
> > you all note the bovine features and the happy smile!
> >
> > I look forward to being back to get the latest interesting posts from Orion
> > around the 20th April!
> >
> > Bye and happy exploits!
> >
> > Ian Hutchesson
> > PS Could someone switch the lights on and off occasionally so that noone
> > notices that I'm gone?
> >
> > From owner-ane@mithra-orinst.uchicago.edu Tue Apr 2 07:50:30 1996
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> > From: eliot@israntique.org.il
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> > Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 07:43:01 +0200 (IST)
> > To: Mark and Beth LaRocca-Pitts <LAROCCAP@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
> > Cc: ANE@mithra-orinst.uchicago.edu
> > Subject: Re: Israel?
> > In-Reply-To: <960401.003958.EST.LAROCCAP@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
> > Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960402074242.13578A-100000@aleph>
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> > Love it. Ra Ra Ra, Happy April Fool's
> >
> > From owner-ane@mithra-orinst.uchicago.edu Tue Apr 2 07:50:38 1996
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> > From: Peter Daniels <pdaniels@press-gopher.uchicago.edu>
> > To: ane@mithra-orinst.uchicago.edu, cwinter@orion.it.luc.edu
> > Subject: Meroitic studies
> > Message-Id: <96Apr1.224404-0600cdt.26489-4042+346@press-gopher.uchicago.edu>
> > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:44:01 -0600
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> >
> >
> > You will find a brief treatment of Meroitic script, by Nicholas Millet, and an
> > even briefer treatment of F. Ll. Griffith's deciperment thereof, by Peter T.
> > Daniels, in *The World's Writing Systems* (Oxford, 1996). Both contributions
> > include relevant bibliography.
> >
> > From owner-ane@mithra-orinst.uchicago.edu Tue Apr 2 07:54:06 1996
> > Return-Path: owner-ane@mithra-orinst.uchicago.edu
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> > Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 23:21:10 -0500
> > From: Jose Rubio Pardo <gonzalor@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
> > Subject: Re: Need Help:Meroitic Studies
> > In-reply-to: <Pine.A32.3.91.960401204907.88632B-100000@orion.it.luc.edu>
> > To: "Clyde A. Winters" <cwinter@orion.it.luc.edu>
> > Cc: ane@mithra-orinst.uchicago.edu
> > Message-id: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960401230444.6738A-100000@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
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> >
> > On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Clyde A. Winters wrote:
> >
> > > Please send information on any recent publications on Meroitic studies.
> > > Thank You.
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure if these works are recent enough, but I hope they might help
> > you.
> >
> > M. L. Bender, "The Meroitic Problem", in M. L. Bender (ed), _Peoples and
> > Cultures of the Ethno-Sudan Borderlands_, Northeast African Studies 10
> > (East Lansing, MI: Michigan State Univ., 1981), 5-32.
> >
> > S. Donadoni & S. Wenig (ed), _Studia Meroitica 1984. Proceedings of the
> > Fifth International Conference of Meroitic Studies. Rome 1984_, Meroitica
> > 10. Humboldt-Universitaet zu Berlin. Bereich Aegyptologie und
> > Sudanarchaeologie (Berlin: Akademie Verlag, 1989).
> >
> > I. Hoffmann, _Studien zum meroitischen Koenigtum_, Monographies Reine
> > Elisabeth 2 (Bruxelles, 1971).
> >
> > L. Toeroek, _Economic Offices and Officials in Meroitic Nubia (A Study in
> > Territorial Administration of the Late Meroitic Kingdom)_, Studi
> > Aegyptiaca V, Etudes publiees par les chaires d'histoire ancienne de
> > l'universite Lorand Eoetvoes de Budapest 26 (Budapest, 1979).
> >
> > ----------, _Der meroitische Staat 1. Untersuchungen und Urkunden zur
> > Geschichte des Sudan im Altertum_, Meroitica 9 (Berlin: Akademie Verlag,
> > 1986).
> >
> > B. G. Trigger & A. Heyler, _The Meroitic Funerary Inscriptions from
> > Arminna West_, Publications of the Pennsylvania-Yale Expedition to Egypt
> > (New Haven/Philadelphia, 1970).
> >
> >
> > Gonzalo Rubio
> > Near Eastern Studies
> > Johns Hopkins University
> >
> > From owner-ane@mithra-orinst.uchicago.edu Tue Apr 2 07:57:55 1996
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> > Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:12:07 -0500 (EST)
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> > To: Mark and Beth LaRocca-Pitts <LAROCCAP@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
> > cc: ANE@mithra-orinst.uchicago.edu
> > Subject: Re: Israel?
> > In-Reply-To: <960401.003958.EST.LAROCCAP@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
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> > Re: Israel = "Is Ra El?"
> >
> > This ranks up there with the suggestion that the name of Lazarus,
> > whom Jesus raised from the dead, is derived from the name Osiris with the
> > "Semitic determinative article 'al" tacked on the front! (Seriously -- I
> > heard this suggestion on an A&E type of show on the African origins of
> > Christianity a few years ago.) Thanks, Mark.
> >
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> > Subject: Re: Will someone switch the lights on?
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> > Dear Ian
> > Happy journey to Misr.
> > 1.You won't be able to get there the cheese in question unless you spell it
> > correctly: "La vache qui rit". The people there used to speack French.
> > 2. For the lights, try a cheap timer. It work admirably but,
> > unfortunately, it does not frighten burglars (personal experience).
> > Abraham
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Ian Hutchesson wrote:
> >
> > > Dear long suffering Orionites (Orionians?),
> > >
> > > I hereby announce that I will be away from the list for three weeks to the
> > > land of Egypt where Onias set up another temple called the Onion!
> > >
> > > There is a type of imported cheese you can buy there called "La vache chi
> > > ris" which has a smiling cow on the packet. This comes to mind when I think
> > > that Hosni Mubarak has often been called "La vache chi ris" in misr. I hope
> > > you all note the bovine features and the happy smile!
> > >
> > > I look forward to being back to get the latest interesting posts from Orion
> > > around the 20th April!
> > >
> > > Bye and happy exploits!
> > >
> > > Ian Hutchesson
> > > PS Could someone switch the lights on and off occasionally so that noone
> > > notices that I'm gone?
> > >
> >
>